Fire Emblem: Three Houses vs Fire Emblem: 風花雪月

Fire Emblem: Three Houses was officially announced at E3 2018 as the latest in the Fire Emblem series of games. One thing that immediately stuck out is that, like Fates, the title is actually quite different in Japanese.

In Japanese, the title is 風花雪月. Read as fuukasetsugetsu.

This is a pretty surface-look at the matter, working with limited contexts… we don’t know much about the game itself, so what exactly may or may not apply is a mystery in itself.

My colleague Rey summarizes it well on his tweet:

Which then another colleague of mine, Black Kite, further expanded upon:

While it remains to be seen what significance the seasonal references hold, it’s a pretty nifty thing. At a glance the main characters do not seem to contain references in their name. Three Houses is a more straightforward title that touches on the trio they showed, so that one with limited context still makes sense. There are three characters shown, and a player character too. Perhaps that makes the fourth?

But how does one get from four seasons to three houses otherwise? Let’s first take a deeper look.

These characters actually reference a poem by Bai Juyi, which is presented in Japanese as an often condensed single line from a larger context:

雪月花の時 最も君を憶う

Which translates to, “At the time of snow, moon and flowers, I think of you.”

The three presented in that order become the Snow, Moon and Flowers combo.

雪月花 ( せつげつ )

You will notice three characters here: snow, moon, and flowers, which represent the snow of winter, moon of autumn, and flowers of spring respectively. Indeed, they are popular in older Japanese culture (such as ukiyo-e pictures), and originated from China. Often referred to as the “snow moon flowers.” Summer seems to often be excluded (perhaps a lack of beauty in its heat). Indeed, this convention even appears in other media.

But more relevant and more interestingly, there is an alternative meaning to these: The “three whites” in art.

  • Blue-White = Winter
  • Yellow-White = Autumn
  • Pink-White = Spring

Why would the color meanings be relevant, well, let’s look at the three characters they showed off:

They indeed have the pink (red), yellow, and blue conventions. That is in the same order of the Japanese title, too (風花雪月 if you take away wind, Flower/Pink/Spring, Snow/Blue/Winter, and Moon/Autumn/Yellow).

And, their names are (left to right):

  • Edelgard von Hraesvelgr
  • Dimitri Alexander Blaiddyd
  • Claude von Regan

I’m not an expert on the naming conventions, but if anyone can connect any parts of these names to the seasons or colors, let me know!

But now you get a better glimpse at how the three characters and their respective countries tie to the Japanese title, and thus how the localization arrived at Three Houses. The seasonal reference may not have worked as well in English, as calling it Fire Emblem: Snow, Moon, Flowers would be odd.

Wind remains as the fourth case, the odd one out. Omitted from the English title as the fourth. I surmise it may have to do with the avatar character, who may be the “fourth” wildcard here. Perhaps you pick a house? Perhaps not. Three Houses still works for the player character, as one can assume they are affiliated with none (and thus “Three Houses” is still accurate).

One could have translated it more literally to Fire Emblem: Four Seasons though that lacks the more poetic intrigue to it. So there is likely more to the difference in names than we can surmise at this point.

The kanji as they appear in title order

You may note for the poem reference the kanji had to be rejiggered a bit, however. If we take it in the exact order presented:

風花雪月 (fuukasetsugetsu)

There is a Japanese wikipedia entry on this.

It basically states that the term is a Chinese phrase that is used for an appreciation of nature and the feelings it brings to people, similar to the Japanese 花鳥風月 (yet another different set of kanji) which means almost the same thing (with a small nuance being the difference in the two, with the Chinese original phrase often having negative connotations the Japanese one lacks).

What this could mean for the game is uncertain. If it is some sort of game that goes against, say, a deity of nature, it could make sense in a way. But with our limited context, going with the poem reference is more likely. This is subject to change of course, with the more we learn in terms of what exactly this game is about which would help us reach a better understanding. Chinese is not my specialty, and whether or not this title thus references the Chinese aspect of the phrase or the Japanese on remains to be seen. Context is key!

Update: A fellow FE translator over on twitter sent this blurb about the Chinese side of the phrase:

I found the phrase on Baidu (basically Chinese Wikipedia, for a lack of a better term), and it seems that they attribute the phrase Wind Flower Snow Moon to Shao Yong (rather than Bai Juyi, who used Snow Moon Flowers), as Shao Yong has a line in a poem stating 虽死生荣辱,转战于前,曾未入于胸中,则何异四时风花雪月一过乎眼也。(风花雪月 being the phrase written in Simplified, of course.) Unfortunately my Chinese isn’t good and I don’t know what the poem says, but I thought this might be of interest to you.

My Chinese isn’t good at all either. If there are any experts in Chinese out there who would like to help add to the conversation, please let me know in the comments or twitter. : )

Update II: From a Chinese Studies major in the comments below:

It’s a word about natural scenery and romantic relationships. We often describe a romantic scene or stories especially for couples as “风花雪月”, we also use it to describe blank and boring poems,which are full of meaningless adjectives. The new game may have marriage systems in it, as the title “风花雪月” implies.

That is the Chinese meaning of the word, and seems to focus more on romance (in the love way, rather than fantasy). Though this may be due to deriving from said poem, how it relates to the Japanese interpretation as well as “Three Houses” in English is up for speculation.

What comes to mind for me is the use of the word “House” in the English title which gives off a sort of “Romeo and Juliet” vibe (like House Montague or House Capulet). That tale is often associated with romance as it is, for English readers. But it may be a little bit of a stretch. Still, it’s nice to have this additional information.

In short:

The title references a poem that only actually uses three characters known as the “Snow, Moon, and Flowers” convention which appears elsewhere in Japanese art history and media, too. But it also refers to three specific colors, colors which the three protagonists here match. The fourth character, “wind,” is a wildcard –potentially the avatar’s role in this game? Either way, you can see how the three seasons, colors, countries, and characters led to the title “Three Houses” instead.

Further reading

I didn’t cover the deeper contexts of what the larger poem (and its origins) may mean for the game, as I was focused on the title/literal artistic motifs behind it. So here are two more very helpful posts:

User Aethin on serenesforest.net goes more in-depth on the poem itself and speculation of the names.

u/Aggro_Incarnate on reddit also posted speculation akin to my post but also tries to fit to the name and regions in a more in-depth way than I did.


That’s all there is to say on the matter for now!

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12 thoughts on “Fire Emblem: Three Houses vs Fire Emblem: 風花雪月

  1. Reinhard von Lohengramm
    Wolfgang Mittermeyer
    Oskar von Reuenthal
    These are kind of a trio in a novel-based anime called Legend of the Galactic Heroes. The name format matches with the names of the three characters shown. Although I think Dimitri is the more ‘fast attacker’ type and Cluade is the ‘a bit more strategic’ type.
    They have little to do with seasons except they often comment on the ‘thunderstorms of summer’ which is the missing season. They were originally 4 of them but the ‘kind hearted’ one died.

    Sorry for stretching so much on this article which is all evidence and research based…

    • No problem with stretching, it’s fun to hear all sorts of views and theories, so please don’t worry about that. : ) Thanks for the post!

  2. Um. Hold on a minute. After writing the last line in my previous comment, I realized something. There are three houses in this game. …They’re named after Celtic locations and mythical figures, but the whole three houses thing could refer to the Three Kingdoms of China – Wei, Shu and Wu. Wei was in North China, founded by Cao Pi; Shu was in West / Southwest China, founded by Liu Bei; and Wu was in East / Southeast China, founded by Sun Quan.

    In Koei’s Dynasty Warriors, Cao Pi’s image color is blue, Liu Bei’s is green and Sun Quan’s is red.

  3. Edelgard is German and translates to “noble house”, while Hraesvelgr is a giant from Norse mythology. Hraesvelgr takes the form of an eagle and lives at the edge of Helheim (Norse underworld), and causes storms when he beats his wings. The name itself translates to “corpse-swallower”. A corpse-eater from a noble house doesn’t seem very flowery…

    Dimitri and Alexander are both Russian, but derive from Greek – they translate to “devoted to Demeter” and “protector of the people”. Blaiddyd/Bladud was a Briton king famous for necromancy – it translates into “wolf lord”. …Earth mother’s protector wolf?

    Claude is a French form of Claudius, which apparently derives from Latin “claudus” for “crippled”. Regan is Celtic and has no known meaning – although it can also be a variation of Reagan / “descendant of Riagán” (Riagán means impulsive, so “crippled impulsive son”?).

    …These don’t seem to have anything to do with the poem or symbology.

    Oh, by the way, I found a 13th century Chinese poem about wind, snow, flowers and moon that mentions the seasons. It was written by a Zen Buddhist master called Wu Men. http://www.poetry-chaikhana.com/blog/2011/02/11/wu-men-ten-thousand-flowers-in-spring/

    Ten thousand flowers in spring, the moon in autumn,
    a cool breeze in summer, snow in winter.
    If your mind isn’t clouded by unnecessary things,
    this is the best season of your life.

    PS. Fuukasetsugetsu is also an old Mahjong move. Getting a row of wind, flower, snow and moon tiles is considered a very complex move, and it’s worth a lot of points. The wind tile is officially called the “east”, the flower tile is “five dots”, the snow tile is a “white dragon” and the moon tile is “one dot”. That dragon thing doesn’t seem like a coincidence.

    The Chinese for fuukasetsugetsu, “feng hua xue yue”, apparently translates to four different things: “romance is in the air”, “love affair”, “dissipated life” and “trite poetry / effete language without substance”. According to a book I found, Chinese poetry considered wind, flowers, snow and moon to be “trivial matters in a person’s life”. “Feng Hua Xue Yue is used to describe a kind of romantic and poetic way of life.”

    *pauses* They should have named this game Fire Emblem: Romance of the Three Kingdoms. XD

    • Thanks for taking the time to write all that in! Indeed these symbols seem quite common in poetry beyond the things listed here. I too also thought of “Romance of the Three Kingdoms” upon seeing the title and doing some research. xD

  4. Well, I’m a Chinese major student so I want to say something about “风花雪月“. It’s a word about natural sceneries and romantic relationships. We often describe a romantic scene or stories especially for couples as “风花雪月”, we also use it to describe blank and boring poems,which are full of meaningless adjectives. The new game may have marriage systems in it, as the title “风花雪月” implies.

    • Thanks a lot for the input! That is curious, I wonder how that can tie to Three Houses. Then again the use of “Houses” gives me that medieval romantic kind of Romeo and Juliet vibe, so it can make sense in that way too. : )

  5. Great post! I’m really hyped for this game so anything going into more details about what the trailer could mean for us next spring is great to see.

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